Rob ([info]robyrt) wrote,
@ 2008-07-10 10:46:00
Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
I've been rewatching Firefly recently with my roommate (the excellent and prodigal Matt Austin), which is a lot of fun. Three things struck me:

1. I'm usually very critical of things, people or ideas, even the ones I like. (Always have been - my family debates a lot, my childhood friends were very cynical, etc.) This gives people the wrong impression, and I didn't realize it could be demoralizing until I started looking for it elsewhere. Attending a pseudo-Bible study on Tim Keller's The Reason for God, Dr. Coffin (my pastor) will go out of his way to correct an omission or a bad choice of words. It sounds like he, like me, is having more fun cleaning up the parts that he finds lacking than he is going over the obvious but well-done parts. It's not always easy to listen to, though. Anybody who plays Halo (that is, virtually all my male friends) knows that I like to whine about it, but heck, I'll still play it.

So it was odd that I have nary a bad thing to say about Firefly, and lots of little bits of praise. I don't have an unnatural attachment to Joss Whedon (his recent run on Astonishing X-Men is exciting but almost a betrayal, and I've never seen Buffy), but I can't help thinking that he writes some of the snappiest dialogue you'll ever hear. Why am I so thrilled? I think because everybody seems to be throwing their whole heart into the production, turning an absurd premise and an enormous ensemble cast into a manageable human drama (like Heroes, but better). I like seeing a pure expression of something.

2. I'm reevaluating the amount of time spent on various forms of entertainment. On the one hand, I have a TV series (10-20 hours) that I've already seen, but provides consistent value. On the other hand, I have a video game (30 hours) that I really should play, but doesn't excite me in any way. On the other other hand, I have a video game (50+ hours) that I really shouldn't play, but has an undeniable addictive appeal. At this point, it's hard to feel superior to TV watchers because my form of entertainment is more durable and flexible. If I'm just gonna be grinding in WOW, why not just watch TV?

3. In one early episode, disturbed wunderkind River attempts to "fix" Shepherd Book's Bible, tearing out pages that don't make sense, are filled with contradictions, etc. She admits that "Noah's Ark is a problem" because it couldn't hold 5000 species of mammals. Book's rejoinder is typical but tepid: "It isn't about making sense, it's about faith... You don't fix faith, it fixes you." Unfortunately, this is exactly how some people think about the Bible, but this position is untenable. River may be a super genius, but she isn't the first person to go all Thomas Jefferson on the Bible by attempting to excise the parts that she can't explain. But if the Bible can only be defended morally, it's worthless. (This actually came up in the Keller study recently.)

To put it more clearly: Eastern religions claim that their myths will help you lead a good life and earn eternal rewards. Monotheistic religions claim that their myths actually occurred, and they had world-changing effects. If the Bible is a morass of contradictions out of which a moral message can be generated, it's no better than Buddhism or Nostradamus. The only reason to take Christianity seriously is if the Bible accurately records Jesus' life, death and resurrection. It IS "about making sense"; fortunately, the Bible does make sense. Noah's Ark, for instance, only has to carry 5000 mammals if you take "two of every kind" to mean "two of every species" according to a taxonomy developed millennia later. River says, "It's broken. It doesn't make sense." Instead of replying "It's not about making sense," Book should have responded, "Yes, it does."



(Post a new comment)


[info]leuconoe
2008-07-10 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Ahah. That scene with River and Book annoys me for the very same reasons. Yay. XD I don't like Book as much as the other characters for much the same reason - not to mention that the scene comes in the middle, if I recall, of an episode about The Value Of Groundless Faith. Oh help.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]robyrt
2008-07-10 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Yeah - I get the sense that Joss Whedon has had very little interaction with actual preachers, he just knew he wanted one in his show. The other archetypes - cowboy, engineer, dandy, thug, sex-starved suburbanite - are much better fleshed out.

On the Value of Groundless Faith - This doesn't seem to be an uncommon worldview, oddly enough. I'm reminded of a Salon.com article describing marriage as a perpetual, mutual self-delusion, then being like "Isn't it great, guys?"

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]hhhiryuu
2008-07-10 09:48 pm UTC (link)
The River/Jefferson camp want to interpret the events in the Bible as having literally happened, and then are thrown into disarray by the things that according to their interpretation don't 'make sense.' Your comments about Book surprise/interest me because they run counter to the 'it isn't supposed to be taken literally' approach I usually hear (and that Book implicitly espouses). You seem to be saying that it is their interpretations of the text that are faulty, thus making the text appear to lack literal sense when it in fact does? That seems reasonable and interesting to me. At the same time, saying that the Bible in all cases makes literal sense is a tricky proposition. I have some trouble seeing that ALL miraculous (i.e. not 'sensically' possible) events can have some interpretation that is literally true and in no way metaphorical. I get stuck in this chain of 'miraculous' = 'impossible, but true' = 'nonsensical'. Perhaps an element of your faith is that such interpretations exist, even if they are not known to you specifically? Or maybe we just disagree on what is or is not possible? Very interesting...

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]robyrt
2008-07-11 01:13 am UTC (link)
A little from column A, a little from column B...

On interpretation, it's not that the whole thing always makes literal sense - stuffed full of prophecy and poetry in a half-dead language as it is, I'd be leery of saying the Bible has been definitively interpreted, the Old Testament especially. There's plenty of wiggle room to interpret Genesis 1 as a shorthand for evolution, or to insist that it's an accurate blow-by-blow account. It's pretty easy to take most of the standard contradictions, etc. and find an interpretation where they don't contradict, but a lot of people don't care enough to look it up.

On what is possible, God gets to cheat here (being God and all, nothing he does is "impossible but true"). Most of the miracles involved can be treated as metaphor, or as natural events interpreted as A Sign, but there's no theoretical reason why they couldn't all be literally true. Think of it this way - all monotheists accept that God created the universe, and once you've gone from zero miracles to one, the next one is much more reasonable.

I've been reading the Bible straight through recently, and I can't shake the impression that (a) the Old Testament was badly stitched together from multiple older sources, and (b) the authors really did believe they were relating reality, not mythology. :-P

(Reply to this) (Parent)


Create an Account
Forgot your login or password?
Login w/ OpenID
English • Español • Deutsch • Русский…